Curse

Pepsi Jedi · Nov 18, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06

They have made it harder.

When the game first came out Some of my guildies and I were going though pretty quick, skipping alot of the quests and hitting the main missions. We got to this one.... about... 5 days in (( We wern't flying but with jobs and actual real lives 5 days was pretty quick for us)) With 3 of us we got though with a bit of trouble but we got though.

Since one of the Guildies in our little group has peeled off for work stuff and the other is doin' that PS3 thing, so I started over, taking things slow, doing alllll the quests and stuff.

I this did it day before yesterday and it was about 5 times harder. I got Slammed more than once and for some reason my lag was like... 5 minutes.

Mission started and the screen wasn't even loaded. By the time I could even move the group was past the first set of enemies... constant lag.. I got killed before the first set of stairs.

The entire mission it lagged like crazy, I kept getting killed and rezzed. Power spiked with out even knowing I was being hit because I was getting one in... 200 frames... it was horrid.

So I too think they've jacked this one up a bit. The first time we went though it was NOTHING like it is now.

It's not impossible.. but it's not what I'd call cake and pie right now.

Captain Arne Is PRO · Nov 18, 2006, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Read your skills, select the correct heros and henchmen, and tweak their builds.

Good man.

Malice Black · Nov 18, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Blood wells is how I done it, sent henchies/heroes first to take aggro and I just stood out of combat range and spammed wells and launched the occasional spike at a boss.

Dr Imperial · Nov 18, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

just tried this again because i forgot what mission this was and i remeber this mission being a bit hard actually. but i did notice it was harder. I quit like 3/4 through the way cause i didnt feel like doing it anymore. :P

Masta Devious · Nov 19, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56

I did this misison yesterday but missed the bonus because i killed the left hand group at the end. I went to redo the quest to get the bonus but i can no longer add koss to my party ?? His 'shields up made the quest easy so i want him in .

Yadee · Nov 19, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Read your skills, select the correct heros and henchmen, and tweak their builds.

People that has had 2 years or so to tweak their builds and learn the game shouldnt use those invalid arguments when NF does a piss poor job of teaching you the game, and gives you new skills at a frustrating low rate

While i had no particular problems with this mission myself, there has been other areas that i found frustratingly hard when i have had no time to get any new skills and the only way i got through it was to ask on unofficial forums
Having to rely on 3rd party sources to accomplish something because the game assumes you arent a new player to GW with NF shouldnt be required...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masta Devious

I did this misison yesterday but missed the bonus because i killed the left hand group at the end. I went to redo the quest to get the bonus but i can no longer add koss to my party ?? His 'shields up made the quest easy so i want him in .

You need to rescue him through a quest line gained at the sunspear sanctuary
Watching the video sequence at the end of the mission showed him getting captured

ducktape · Nov 20, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Here's what worked for me:

I had picked Sousuke instead of Jin. Gave him Firestorm, Liquid Fire, Inferno, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Fire Attunement, Protective Spirit and Protective Bond. [Disclaimer: Protective Bond is a prophecies skill, and every time Protective Bond kicks in to reduce damage, you lose 4 energy. No big deal if you have lots of energy or have low energy and can still function when you run out] Had Sosuke put Protective Bond on one of the monks, and I gave myself Protective Bond and Protective Spirit, and kept Protective Bond on the second monk. With Protective Bond on each monk, they can't take more than 5% damage from anything, so they weren't getting ganked and we were free to use Protective Spirit on the rest of the team as necessary, so all the ganking problems stopped.

Sosuke would cast Firestorm whenever there was a group of enemies, and that would help because they would get down to about half health and break off their attack. After failing the mission like 5 times, with this setup I passed it easily.

portlimo · Nov 20, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

Without reading ahead on this mission I did first at lvl 15

Following the onscreen prompts I hurried to where I was "told" to go missing first field commander

cleared the seige catapault thing but totally my fault chose to go to left stair case, hadn't even killed last mob when cinematic came on

got regular score

now I have rescued koss and am trying to get master but there is never a field commander on the left staircase for me to kill......

Hope I can do this without a pug group but is that only solution?

thanks for any help you can give me

port

Shinigami God · Nov 20, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44

I brought my MM. Beat it the first time, not one henchie died, including little old lv6 dunkoro. I beat it on my second try with my dervish, only because Lonai glitched and didn't summon minions the first time

MaglorD · Nov 20, 2006, 07:57 AM // 07:57

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Originally Posted by ran93r

Seriously, 5 or 6 attempts at that on the 20 Assassin. Maybe it was the low level heroes or my oustanding ability at suck, who knows

lol. Didn't have much trouble with low level level 10 dunkoro and my assassin. But then I brought Takihora who was bonder. Got through with mastery

stevowonders · Nov 21, 2006, 05:50 AM // 05:50

after killing off the archer go to the commander and kill him first. no matter how much guards/bowmen etc there are kill the commander and that stops the spawning.

SPARMAN · Nov 30, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

The Consulate Dock Shield is blinking!

I am looking to not only get off this island and to the mainland but, get to Lions Arch as well. I am LVL 18 Dervish my quest log is empty and I need “The Time Is Nigh.” Can’t find who has it, I may have had it before but failed the mission first time at level 7. Now can’t enter or find the mission at all. My paragon still has the quest “The Time is Nigh” but my Dervish is stuck. I tried joining a group, but the game would not let them take me.
I already have 6 LVL 20 characters in Guild Wars so I do understand the game. I found that Nightfall seemed to be a real step but step quest opening process. I have scanned “Common Nightfall problems, mission sequence” but I can’t seem to find the answer.
Any help would be appreciated.

Francis Crawford · Dec 01, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

I'm redoing this mission for the fun of it, for caps, for drops, etc. I use a four-character team of level 20s -- two Searing Flames nukers (inc. Sousoke), an MM (Olias), and a healer (Dunkoro). The MM has a super self-defense build, but there's nothing special on the nukers.

Now, you can't exactly imitate that, since on has to get past the mission to get Searing Flames. And unless you have Prophecies you can get neither decent nuking skills or Olias. But how about some ranger Barraging as a high-damage substitute?

As for the siege explosions, there's a simple answer -- don't stand in them. If one spot seems especially unhealthy, move to another one.

Francis Crawford · Dec 01, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Oh yeah. Two of my heros have the Power Leech/Leech Signet combo for energy. So that's a potential 8 interrupts per minute for my team. Maybe that matters.

kazjun · Dec 01, 2006, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Why make you monks monk/eles? Is there a reason? Please say you're not trying to nuke with them cause that would be the reason right there. Are you taking henchies? Cause all you need is to make you monks into monk/mesmers, slap leech sig and power drain on them and make them prot monks. Take Khim and between the three of them you could just run through the whole mission doing nothing but pick up loot. Your warrior hero and henchies are more than enough to kill everything with 3 monks taking care of them. And if you've got a lvl20? Level up your heroes or don't use them. Seriously, if 4 lvl20's and 4 lvl15's can't do this mission you need to rethink your builds.

Francis Crawford · Dec 01, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40

As I said before, 4 Level 20s can do it without help from Level 15s. I imagine with the right build fewer than 4 can do it, but that would be hard until you know the mission really well. I actually died in 1 of my 4 tries so far at doing it with a squad of 4.

And in saying that, I've just revealed one of the things I'm currently doing for farming.

Mavrik · Dec 01, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50

I failed the mission with -55% DP my first try... so I asked the guild alliance for some help. They joined in with their lv 20 heroes and what not. They were past the first set of stairs and bowmen by the time I loaded into the game. We swept through with bonus in about 15 mins... I couldn't do it without them.

pug_ster · Dec 01, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Just group with someone with a level 20 mm pug or hero. Much better than nukers in this mission.

pug_ster · Dec 01, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPARMAN

The Consulate Dock Shield is blinking!

I am looking to not only get off this island and to the mainland but, get to Lions Arch as well. I am LVL 18 Dervish my quest log is empty and I need “The Time Is Nigh.” Can’t find who has it, I may have had it before but failed the mission first time at level 7. Now can’t enter or find the mission at all. My paragon still has the quest “The Time is Nigh” but my Dervish is stuck. I tried joining a group, but the game would not let them take me.
I already have 6 LVL 20 characters in Guild Wars so I do understand the game. I found that Nightfall seemed to be a real step but step quest opening process. I have scanned “Common Nightfall problems, mission sequence” but I can’t seem to find the answer.
Any help would be appreciated.

You will find out that many of the towns 'blinks' but you might not be able to do mission because you don't have the necessary requirements. Someone can probably run you into the Docks but Elonian chars have to do a bunch of quests and missions before you can do the mission there. You will have to run back to towns and you probably didn't talk to someone to get your primary quest.

cynnn · Dec 02, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

I don't understand why a considerable amount of players are having problems with NF at this early stage. Sorry to be direct, but you'll most probably run into bigger obstacles later on if u struggle here. I played NF through the 1st time on my monk and this mission was like "kill kill kill, move on, kill more kill faster = the end". Actually the only mission in NF that required me to re-enter more than twice was.. the celebration of lyssa's day or something similar where u gotta convince 3 princes.